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I can remember what it was like to know almost nothing. Etiquette should be covered, I can tell you that.


Yes, as well as lack of etiquette and 'real world' variations. For instance, many boxmen will let a pretty girl shoot the dice even though only her boyfriend's money is on the line and he is waiving his turn to shoot. Not strictly legal, but no one really minds. A mid-roll buy in is rude but will be allowed since its often the fasted thing to do and sometimes the buy-in amount is more than that particularly table has seen all day long. At a five dollar table anyone buying in for more than five grand will not be told to wait for the shooter to make his point.
In BJ, mid shoe buyins are often hated by both players and the house alike. Even if the house is okay with it, its often a courtesy to ask but I think its an equal courtesy to always say 'Sure, the more the merrier. Good luck to you'. If the house wants to say no thats fine, but players should be accommodating and cheerful, even if its really not universal.
Exuberance is to be expected and excited utterances do take place but there should be some indication that it is to be expected that players will maintain a proper decorum, even if no young ladies are actually present at the table. That a gentleman who allows his emotions to cause a lapse in his judgment may or may not get a warning depending upon the degree of the lapse and whether an expletive was directed at the world in general or was instead directed at a casino employee.
I think part of the etiquette considerations should be to encourage the inexperienced player to reveal their status to the dealer so as to obtain directions and additional time as needed without causing more major disruptions.
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Pyramid of the kings slot machine. For instance, many boxmen will let a pretty girl shoot the dice even though only her boyfriend's money is on the line and he is waiving his turn to shoot. Not strictly legal, but no one really minds.

Mind? Hell no! An opportunity to see a gal and her gals bouncing up and down? The box/stick would get killed if he passed her by.
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A mid-roll buy in is rude but will be allowed since its often the fasted thing to do and sometimes the buy-in amount is more than that particularly table has seen all day long. At a five dollar table anyone buying in for more than five grand will not be told to wait for the shooter to make his point.

Really? I've never seen anyone told to wait, even if it's just a $20 buy-in. The worst I've seen is that it will be called 'Change only, no action' with the player getting in the game after the roll.
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Mention working and not-working and the unusual Vegas rule about hard ways on a mid-roll come out.


What rule are you referring to? Do you mean that hard ways are ON for come out rolls?
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I've generally thought your Gambling 102 was a bit too shallow, so I hope you will aim a bit higher.


It just goes to show I'm not going to please everybody either way. I have to say that my general philosophy will be KISS, as I'm trying to reach more readers with these videos, and think will catch more fish going for the common man. I will throw in some pointers for more advanced players too.
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Don't make it too dry. When I stayed at 4 queens, they have one of their own channels on tv and one segment is how to play a handful of different table games. It was done pretty well and had fair instructions, unlike you may find in real life situations at the table-notibly craps, but it was pretty dry.


Yes, I remember those videos, and mine will be in large part based on them. However, I will have only one model and I will be going for something more casual and hopefully fun to watch.
Regarding all the suggestions by Odius, I am also planning to do segments on rules and strategy. The Q&A are more of a way to touch on miscellaneous comments I might miss in those two parts.

Yes, as well as lack of etiquette and 'real world' variations. For instance, many boxmen will let a pretty girl shoot the dice even though only her boyfriend's money is on the line and he is waiving his turn to shoot.


Hopefully he will short-stick her.
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Really? I've never seen anyone told to wait, even if it's just a $20 buy-in. The worst I've seen is that it will be called 'Change only, no action' with the player getting in the game after the roll.


Good point. Personally, I want until a seven-out to buy in. Is that the proper etiquette or am I going too far?
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A mid-roll buy in is rude but will be allowed since its often the fasted thing to do and sometimes the buy-in amount is more than that particularly table has seen all day long. At a five dollar table anyone buying in for more than five grand will not be told to wait for the shooter to make his point.


Really? I have bought in mid roll may times...and have never got a weird look..and never seen or gave anyone a sideways look when buying in mid roll....So If I walk up to a table and the puck is 'on a point'...and I want chips to make a come bet or two...To 'buy in' would be considered rude? Hmmm...anyone else feel is it is not proper Etiquette to 'buy in' mid roll?
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Good point. Personally, I want[sic] until a seven-out to buy in. Is that the proper etiquette or am I going too far?


It's proper etiquette, but too few people know it.
And when someone buys in in the middle of a roll I think A)you're an asshole or B)you've never played this game before.
So please teach it.

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Really? I have bought in mid roll may times...and have never got a weird look..and never seen or gave anyone a sideways look when buying in mid roll....So If I walk up to a table and the puck is 'on a point'...and I want chips to make a come bet or two...To 'buy in' would be considered rude? Hmmm...anyone else feel is it is not proper Etiquette to 'buy in' mid roll?


I dont do it, I hate seeing cash on the table when the puck is on. Lots of people do it though, dealers dont seem to care.

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Mention working and not-working and the unusual Vegas rule about hard ways on a mid-roll come out.

What rule are you referring to? Do you mean that hard ways are ON for come out rolls?Yeah, that's what I meant. Quite frankly, I've always wondered why Vegas does it that way.
I mean, if the dealers realize that they have to remind players all the time, and since other optional bets are off for the come-out, why is it done that way? Yeah, I realize the answer is 'tradition,' but it's a stupid tradition.
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Really? I've never seen anyone told to wait, even if it's just a $20 buy-in. The worst I've seen is that it will be called 'Change only, no action' with the player getting in the game after the roll.

Good point. Personally, I want until a seven-out to buy in. Is that the proper etiquette or am I going too far?Frankly, yeah, I DO think it's taking etiquette too far.
The proper thing to do is to merely wait until the dealer is done paying and taking as a result of the one roll. Have the money out already, and throw it in,

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before the stickman startes to move the dice to the shooter.

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Go ahead and either call a simple bet or call 'no action'. That is to say, the right thing to do is to not hold up the game.
Etiquette? That would mean that either the casino misses an opportunity to take your money, or you'll miss a hot roller. That's a bad thing either way. If you wait and the shooter throws a 7-out, yeah, you're happy, but in a shoulder shrugging sort of way.
Personally, I approach a craps table, and just watch for a couple rolls. THEN I take out my money. A smart dealer will recognize that I already sat out a couple rolls, so sitting out one more roll isn't going to upset me.
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Really? I have bought in mid roll may times...and have never got a weird look..and never seen or gave anyone a sideways look when buying in mid roll....So If I walk up to a table and the puck is 'on a point'...and I want chips to make a come bet or two...To 'buy in' would be considered rude? Casino game free online blackjack play. Hmmm...anyone else feel is it is not proper Etiquette to 'buy in' mid roll?

If I walk up to the table when the puck is 'on', I'll wait there with my cash and players card displayed and wait for the dealer to make the call. It's about 50/50 waiting till the point's resolved. Sometimes when there are alot of prop bets being cleaned up after a roll, I'll hear 'would you like to buy in now,sir?' Otherwise I wait for the puck to go black. I've nver thrown cash down without being invited to by the crew.

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